Google Is Pulling the Plug Again on Youtube From the Echo Show and Fire Tv

ol1bit

No youtube, that is large!

HTPC +silicondust and place for the Vive!

RayderR6

I think Google is doing the right affair here. The whole betoken in these devices are that they are only a simple endpoint device, it's the service yous're paying for. I should be able to utilize a unmarried device of my choosing to access ALL services that I pay for, instead of needing 3-iv unlike devices.

The merely (and I mean only) entertaining thing I observe about the way this corptacracy is heading is watching these "entities" fight similar children, a corp is just a large infant after all. Everything else about information technology is sending everything down the crapper at a faster and faster charge per unit.

With the American and World Wide Public existence raped and gang-banged by greedy lying Regime officials working in unison and on the behalf of big businesses it'south only going to get more than profoundly interesting when they take away Net Neutrality.
Trust me, if Amazon could charge Youtube for fastlanes ... they admittedly fucking would. And trust me, Verizon, ATT, Comcast, etc etc will be charging Youtube and Netflix for admission to their lines.

It's not going to go amend it'south going to get much much much worse.

I really promise all of you are signing those petitions that are all over the web. Piece of cake to do.

Exactly!

Non certain if you're joking, but this has absolutely nothing to practice with cyberspace neutrality. Amazon and Google have no obligation to carry each others service, but doing so would benefit the finish user while expanding their target audience for their services.

You're correct, but at that place'south your consequence, you are seeing this from an stop user experience, corps don't requite a rats fucking ass about the end user, the end user is merely a numbers count. Corps care nearly how many of those numbers they can lock into their organisation to feed only at their trough. They only want "marketplace share" and they are big babies that don't know how to play nice and share their toys (we're the toys actually, not the devices and services). Hither is a instance where Google makes an endeavor at sharing, but since little Tommy isn't sharing his toys, piddling Jason is going to go on his away from Tommy, it's hilarious.

Google are the good guys here. They are fighting for their services to be provided by Amazon in an equal exchange.
I bet Amazon could solve this trouble overnight if they provided Prime number for Google devices, didn't pass up to sell Best devices, etc. etc.

Yep, but Amazon (aka Bezos) wants to dominate the world. Ego and appetite are all proficient in moderation, we wouldn't have innovation if not for information technology, but humans do take it style to far, greed and power are a bitch.

Looks like my conclusion to go with Roku was a good one.

Don't get comfortable, Roku recently fabricated a bargain with the devil (aka WallStreet) and at present they are going to have to play the fiddle for him (and they won't be able to play as well as Johnny did in "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"). Roku is going to get squeezed, twisted and succumb to the monster and volition wind up being bought past i of the behemoth'due south and all Roku devices will belong to them.

What'south ironic is that, apart from Home versus Echo, Google's devices don't really compete with Amazon's Fire devices. For example, Chromecast is express in that information technology requires an outside device with Cast-capable apps to piece of work properly and Google exited the depression-price tablet market place a long fourth dimension ago. Roku'south devices are actual competitors to the Fire Television receiver devices and are actually much, much ameliorate because they're service agnostic, all the same Amazon goes ahead and sells them.

Yep, all ironic "Don't Yous Think".

When corporate ego trips have a complete two year onetime style meltdown....yous become...this.
Honestly, every person, corporate entity, or regime that has always obtained a complete market dominance does this kind of stuff. That's why competition is so important.

Personally, I have nearly completely stopped shopping at Amazon. Other than Windows 10 I will not buy a Microsoft product. I have never owned an Apple production. Other than search with Google, which I'd love to find an alternative that, you know, works, I really don't want to use Google products anymore either.

And all of my decisions about this stuff has been solely because large companies always do stuff like this. I'm sick of it.

Yeah again, I beloved your 'had plenty of it boycotting nature', but I do nevertheless shop where I detect the best bargain and apply the service that works best for me. I've come to the conclusion that we are all swirling down the toilet bowl and I'm not able to turn the tide myself (oh I've tried), but there is only too much aloofness and stupidity in the population to believe any tide can turn. Man am I glad I never had kids, bitter sugariness, but when I think about how I would have liked to, I just realize it's my ain selfishness talking.

Expert luck out the [H]ers!

EricVB

Fifty-fifty Roku isn't allowed to this kind of crap. The Twitch channel/app on Roku is no longer supported or available. (why? Because Amazon owns Twitch now). Something will modify on Twitch at some betoken (probably related to streaming/codecs) that volition render the Twitch channel useless on Roku for those of us with the app still loaded.
Amazon wants you to buy their streaming device.
Google wants you to buy their streaming device.
I was hoping Roku would be able to be the Swiss version of a streaming device (neutral to all), merely no.
Fuck all their greedy asses to hell.

Plus no google music on roku. But Google Movies and TV, Youtube. Does not make sense...

86 5.0L

My 70" Vizio "monitor" with a built in Google CCU simply got Amazon video. =\ I hope it stays

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Except they don't always have access to certain stuff either. Off the top of my caput;

Sunday ticket app
Uverse app
Directv app
Netflix 4k

And I'm sure there's a few other things

travisty

Except they don't always have access to sure stuff either. Off the top of my head;
Sunday ticket app
Uverse app
Directv app
Netflix 4k

And I'chiliad sure there's a few other things

Huh streaming gets me everything i need, haven't seen Tv set and/or commercials in years. It's peachy.

4k will come eventually. I don't have a 4k TV anyway and so it'd be wasted.

chameleoneel

So, If I wanna have "everything", i'grand gonna have to get a second stick for my Boob tube?

Having Amazon, Youtube, Netflix, Hulu, Redbull, etc, all on 1 stick, was really nice.

focbde

Since some of you chimed in on the Roku I will 2nd and third that. I have always been a huge media streamer starting with the WD Home Theater x years ago. Finally bought a Roku virtually a year ago, the Premier model and I absolutely love it. Pro tip. Get you a cheap read / write Micro SDHC memory card and put it in the Roku. Everything loads upwards incredibly fast. Information technology's a good update to your Roku if oasis't done so yet. Don't get cheap, y'all need a 90MB/southward read / write card to see the difference.
My Roku handles 4K MKV's exceptionally well. Plex front-end has no problem with 3,300+ MKV's.

I practice wish there was built in vox commands as well as a magic arrow to navigate Youtube faster.

So... 'Get yous a cheap read / write Micro SDHC retentiveness carte' followed by 'Don't become cheap'

Don't worry, I get what you mean, equally they're all cheap really, just fabricated me chuckle.

mashie

The Nvidia Shield is playing prissy with anybody.

Zohar78

It's non unheard-of for corporations to practice this crap. Go buy a GE breater at a square d supply business firm

fuzzylogik

Or... purchase Coke and Pepsi products at a restaurant.

This really doesnt touch folks who feel strongly for or against one or the other - information technology does affect those that want both though. I call up in the long run this will cease up working itself out - probably being used as bargaining chips as I assume that one wants money from the other in order to 'support' them. If neither of the Google or Amazon branded products tin carry the others streaming service I'm thinking something else volition somewhen testify up that does both rather well (also Roku? don't have that) - and if they notice that the other device is doing quite well they'll modify their stance or a compromise will be made...

Gigus Fire

good. I tin can't wait until amazon comes out with a video service like youtube then there tin can be competition in the field across the smaller players

Vader1975

I stopped using my Fire Idiot box once they dropped Flickster which cut out Vudu/Ultraviolet and cutting me off from 95% of my library. And so more than crap from google is barely a blip.

daglesj

I use the YouTube app on my FireTV a lot. The 1 affair that bugs me is it works fine then it starts to drop quality and frames and just goes to shit. I then have to pull the plug (literally) and so its fine for a few hours...and then it breaks downwardly again.

It's the only app on the FireTV that does it. everything else is perfect. I wonder if Google has been doing this?

Vermillion

Amazon totally at mistake here. Bezos is a giant egotistical douchebag. Only person who was a bigger ego douche was Jobs.

Gasaraki_

When corporate ego trips have a consummate two twelvemonth old fashion meltdown....you go...this.
Honestly, every person, corporate entity, or authorities that has ever obtained a consummate marketplace dominance does this kind of stuff. That'due south why competition is so important.

Personally, I have almost completely stopped shopping at Amazon. Other than Windows 10 I volition not purchase a Microsoft product. I have never owned an Apple tree product. Other than search with Google, which I'd love to find an alternative that, you know, works, I really don't want to use Google products anymore either.

And all of my decisions near this stuff has been solely considering large companies ever do stuff similar this. I'm sick of it.

Time to move to the mountains somewhere kid.

griffinhart

Yep, at that place is a HUGE difference betwixt not supporting a platform because information technology has all of 12 users (seriously, I accept never seen anyone use or e'er met anyone who endemic a Windows phone) and intentionally blocking a platform because you accept the market authorization in the field and want to force your competitors out.
Amazon is the one in the wrong here. Plain and simple.

Amazon isn't "blocking a platform" Blocking implies that they are taking an action to prohibit it. They simply aren't making a product for chromecast and are choosing not to sell google chromecast devices. On the other hand, Google is taking activeness past actively blocking access to Amazon devices.

And to make a few points on some other comments:

Amazon does sell Apple products, and not a limited selection. To be more precise, Apple sells direct through the Amazon store front. A quick looks shows pretty much all apple tree products being sold on the site, other than Apps and such, which Apple would never allow anyway. Information technology'southward also interesting to pointing out, that on an iOS device, even though Amazon Prime number, kindle and Audible apps are available, Apple does not allow Amazon to sell content through the apps. You must get through a browser.

Make no fault, this is most two massive companies butting heads and non much else. Neither Google nor Amazon are standing on higher ground than the other. And I am so amused how some think that, when it comes to Google, that the consumer is the client. Unless you are subscribing to 1 of Google's paid for services, you lot are not. YOU ARE THE Product, non the customer.

mrp

Fire Tv > Browser (Silk - perfect timing) > Youtube

andrewaggb

There's some revisionist history. Google was inappreciably alone in their lack of obligation or involvement to devoting time and resources into propping up Microsoft'southward dead platform. They saw the writing on the wall like everyone else. Nobody was ever truly interested in making windows phone apps - not fifty-fifty Microsoft was always fully committed.
And when Microsoft slopped together a knockoff Youtube app - complete with the trademarked Youtube logo and that circumvented advertisements, well no shit a takedown was ordered. Just like Microsoft does when people create knockoffs of their software, or try to create hacks or workarounds to circumvent their revenue streams. Historically when Microsoft has enjoyed the ascendant position they've acted the same or worse.

Mayhap a little revisionist certain. Just at the time many youtube apps didn't have ADs (typically older ones). Windows phone was somewhat pop in my area, I knew lots of people with them. This is all but big business organization. Microsoft is out of the phone market. Amazon'southward telephone never amounted to anything. Apple tree is < 15%, Android is the remainder. Streaming and home services like echo,domicile, etc are just some other market that Amazon and Google are fighting over. I'm sure they are both doing what they think will give them eighty%+ market share. Both companies take had some spectacular failures (fire phone, google plus) and they don't want to give upward in home streaming, voice (repeat/home), etc.

Redmud

I actually orderd a Fire Stick this week and canceled the club later I did a bit more research. I concluded upwards ordering instead the Roku streaming stick+. Hopefully it will work plugging it in to my avr. This is all so I can watch the Amazon video stuff.

Deleted member 214115

Cutting the cord long-long time agone, and I used to remember that the Roku was always the best choice (started with Roku 2). But afterwards I purchased the nVidia Shield Television receiver back 2022 during a Christmas sale it became absolutely the best when information technology was at its worst. All the other streaming devices are a joke in comparison. There is and so much ability to the Shield and it gets better with fourth dimension as back up matures.

Vader1975

Amazon totally at error hither. Bezos is a giant egotistical douchebag. Only person who was a bigger ego douche was Jobs.

Well the dead tin't continue douching. Then its only Bezos now.

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